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Hi Margie,

Just saw your follow-up piece; thanks so much for printing my response and those of the others. I thought it a very informative and interesting piece and a service to your readers.

Just wanted to add that we recently increased the amount of space businesses have to respond to reviews to match that given reviewers; it was a piece of feedback we received from our newly created Small Business Advisory Committee and we were delighted to be able to act upon their input so soon in their tenure.

Finally, you note the potential "conflict of interest" in having unbiased review content on the site and accepting paid advertising. Remember, the media has had this exact business model for its entire existence -- reporting fairly on companies that buy advertising. At Yelp, however, we don't even write the content -- our users do.

Cheers,

Vince Sollitto
VP, Communications
Yelp, Inc.
09/02/10 @ 16:44
Hey Margie,

Yelp is a valuable tool for businesses whose owner cannot always be the "front of the house" guy. I do the marketing for A Perfect Finish Wine Bar (San Jose, CA) and when I started there, the owner said, "I never look at Yelp, that's just crap". Well, while the problem hasn't been adequately addressed, I felt that the yelp reviews painted a very good picture of the way our guests felt about a certain employee we had. The bad reviews, with one exception, were all based on bad service and bad attitude from one employee. Why business owners don't accept Yelp for what it is, I have no idea.

Having said that, we used to pay Yelp and have since discontinued they pay to play service and I have noticed no change in the way our reviews are presented (note that we discontinued our service after their policies became a public embarrassment.)

Those poor souls that use Yelp to decide where to eat or drink need better socialization skills. But then again, I would never try to find my love online. I may just be old fashioned. When people are able to go online for instant wine tasting, I just may change my mind, lol.

Please don't use the name of our business if you refer to this email, the employee in question is still, sadly, with us.

Name withheld
09/06/10 @ 11:47
I am having a hard time with TripAdvisor. A disgruntled guest wrote that we had hair in both their breakfasts, long black hair. My wife who cooked the food and I who served it do not have long black hair. These among other things that they said were not a matter of opinion (the guests’) but outright lies it amounts to libel. Guests should only be allowed to write their opinion of their experiences and the business owner should be allowed to have the review removed while an investigation ensues and then if it can be proven to be correct with proof (from other guests, photographs or the establishment has a history of shoddy and poor service) then returned.

In TripAdvisor’s case I am a client and they are not treating me any different than as if I weren’t.
I am so mad I wish it were easy to sue. It is not, it’s costly and time consuming. Anyway the fight continues with me working still to get TripAdvisor to remove the damming review.

BTW we have over 100 excellent reviews and are at the top of the Long Island Bed and Breakfast group.

Do you have any suggestions?

Wilfred
Arbor View House Bed & Breakfast
Elegance, Romance and Spa Services in Long Island’s North Fork Wine Country
09/07/10 @ 09:00
We are anti-yelp! Yes, the public has every right to voice their opinion, but so many times they are uneducated and unreasonable voices on food-something that many people do not have the knowledge to write on.
Furthermore, Yelp elects to remove 5-star critiques from users with little or no past history on yelp, yet they leave 1-star comments from the same inexperienced yelper. Unfair, unjust-Yelp is paving a way for the consumer, who generally lacks knowledge on the hospitality industry to voice their opinion with no foundation. This is why "WE" restaurateurs stand united against YELP.

I will say that there are some yelpers that do share our enthusiasm and knowledge for food-these people are the minority.

Shane Hudson
09/08/10 @ 13:09
Hi Margie—Re Yelp. This is why legitimate newspapers have restaurant reviewers with journalism degrees. Journalists are trained to be as objective as possible (and objective might mean a negative review as well as a favorable one). But with Yelp, you are getting amateur opinion. Would you rather have a lawyer with a law degree or an amateur lawyer? Would you rather have a surgeon with an MD or someone who practices surgery just for fun? It’s the same thing with restaurant reviews. I spent four years of college studying journalism and many years on newspapers and magazines practicing it, and while that doesn’t make my opinion about a restaurant any more valid than an amateur’s, it does make it more reliable, informed, and subject to my personal standards of integrity and objectivity that have been developed over many years.

Jeff Cox
09/08/10 @ 15:15
Comment from: JZ [Visitor] · http://www.zthomes.com/
Jeff,

You point is quite narcissistic, trying to imply journalists are skilled as doctors or lawyers is simply an argument that won't hold water as the current state of the newspaper business demonstrates. (I do M&A work including newspaper transactions)

The problem with blogging isn't the lack of degrees but the anonymity and lack of consequence. If a "journalist" constantly pans restaurants, he won;t last long, but a anonymous blogger can insult everything with any concern and do it multiple times under different alias'.
09/08/10 @ 15:31
Comment from: Amy Reiley [Visitor] · http://www.lifeofreiley.com
I actually started posting a substantial number of yelps myself. Even though I work as a professional food journalist, I started yelping because I wanted to promote friends' events and yelp members told me they wouldn't take my event listings seriously - clearly they were just some sort of self promotion in their eyes (even if it wasn't my event!) unless I also posted reviews.

And, frankly, as a journalist, I do use yelp to sniff out new or under the radar spots when I am traveling. Obviously, I just use it as another resource not my only or final source for making a dining or other decision. But it is very helpful in this way.

So I thought, I should yelp too. At least I know that my comments will be reasonably objective and, lets face it, yelp is getting more traction than the outlets for which I write about restaurants!

I generally only yelp places I want to recommend but I have written a couple of negative reviews. None of my reviews, negative or positive, have ever been removed and I've been doing it for about a year and a half.

I can say, however, that I wrote a negative review on Tripadvisor, (I once rented a house that nobody else should ever, ever pay money to endure). And that review was removed from the Tripadvisor site.

I have heard that there are shady dealings at Yelp and, if it is true, I hope all this chatter helps to resolve the issue.
09/10/10 @ 11:27
If you can pay to have negative comments filtered, then YELP can be of no use to anyone, patron or owner. The public should know what they are doing.

Cindy Ramirez
09/10/10 @ 12:18
Trip Advisor does a much better job of letting the establishments rebut/respond to negative reviews.

Tom Merle
12/14/10 @ 12:22

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